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(part 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: justify; font-size: small;\">The last issue I presented what I believe to be the obvious short-comings of the Seeker Sensitive movement.\u00a0 It has been my observation that this movement, though beginning with good intentions, has strayed from the biblical model of evangelism.\u00a0 \u201cSeekers\u201d have become a market place and the gospel a commodity, the price of which has been continually lowered to meet the demands of the consumer.\u00a0 The tragic loser is the sinner himself who has been misled to believe that salvation can be on his terms rather than God\u2019s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Seeker Sensitive movement has coined a good phrase but it is a misnomer, a name wrongly used to describe what is happening in contemporary churches.\u00a0 A poor person who buys an expensive product because of how it was advertised can\u2019t be said to have had his needs met.\u00a0 Sinners who are drawn to church by advertising the church to be worldly can\u2019t be said to have had their needs met.\u00a0 Seekers by\u00a0 convenience must become sinners by conviction if their needs are to be honestly met.\u00a0 As has already been said, any church could draw a crowd.\u00a0 But to what extent is it willing to go just to attract people to the church?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">After a couple decades of studying generations and fads, from boomers to millennials, postmoderns to convergents, I wonder if we will one day discover that these were but a small percentage of our society yet we had changed all our churches to please them.\u00a0 It wouldn\u2019t be the first time a society has wagged the whole dog by the tail of the culturally elite.\u00a0 (The next time you are in a crowded grocery store or the local auto parts outlet, ask yourself how many of these people know or care which French deconstructionist turned semiotics into the methodology of kitsch within the church!)\u00a0 Most people are still normal people.\u00a0 They understand normal language and they will make an intelligent decision when presented with one.\u00a0 The gospel will be understood and either accepted or rejected as it should be and must be.\u00a0 If there is a small segment of society that has become angry at God and cannot love His church, then that is a human choice for which they will be responsible before God as well.\u00a0 Let\u2019s give them the gospel too, plainly and lovingly, but without change, compromise or regret.\u00a0 There are still many people who are waiting to hear the message of hope and who will respond positively when they hear it.\u00a0 In Corinth, Paul might have been tempted to make his message more palatable because of the negative reception and the threat of Gallio\u2019s judgment seat, but the Lord appeared to him and said, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace: For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city (Acts 18:9-10).\u00a0 God still has \u201cmuch people\u201d in our towns and cities\u00a0 who are waiting for the good news of Christ.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In the early part of the twentieth century, J. Gresham Machen was noticing similar trends within the Presbyterian Church, USA.\u00a0 Long before his departure from that body he wrote the following words,<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The fundamental fault of the modern Church is that she is busily engaged in an absolutely impossible task &#8212; she is busily engaged in calling the righteous to repentance.\u00a0 Modern preachers are trying to bring men into the Church without requiring them to relinquish their pride; they are trying to help men avoid the conviction of sin.\u00a0 The preacher gets up into the pulpit, opens the Bible, and addresses the congregation somewhat as follows:\u00a0 &#8216;You people are very good,&#8217; he says; &#8216;you respond to every appeal that looks toward the welfare of the community. Now we have in the Bible &#8212; especially in the life of Jesus &#8212; something so good that we believe it is good enough even for you good people.&#8217;\u00a0 Such is modern preaching.\u00a0 But it is entirely futile.\u00a0 Even our Lord did not call the righteous to repentance, and probably we shall be no more successful than He.<sup>1<\/sup><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Sinner-Sensitive Model<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Jesus did not call the self-righteous to repentance.\u00a0 That is, He knew that a person must see himself as a sinner before he will truly believe.\u00a0 It is in this regard that I believe we must become \u201cSinner Sensitive.\u201d\u00a0 The following points parallel but contrast with the six points made about the Seeker Sensitive movement.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">1. It starts with separation<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Whereas the Seeker Sensitive model starts with assimilation of the church into the world and the world into the church, conservative Christianity has understood that God commands His children to be separate from the world because this brings power and effectiveness to our witness.\u00a0 This is true both of personal separation issues:\u00a0 Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity (2 Tim. 2:19); and also of ecclesiastical separation issues:\u00a0 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honor, and some to dishonor.\u00a0 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honor, sanctified and meet for the master\u2019s use, and prepared unto every good work (vss 20-21).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In spite of the untrue accusations that separatists hide their heads in the sand and don\u2019t go out into the world as witnesses, time has shown that more people have been won to Christ in the age of grace, especially the last hundred years, by separatists than anyone else!\u00a0 But, we go into the world without being of the world.\u00a0 It\u2019s all right for the ship to be in the sea, but when the sea gets into the ship the whole project is lost.\u00a0 The cross of Christ is a stumblingblock and even brings shame to the carrier, but that is what brings power to the gospel message:\u00a0 the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings (Phil. 3:10).\u00a0 Paul said: God forbid that I should glory save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ (Gal. 6:14).\u00a0 C.H. Spurgeon, in his own \u201cDowngrade Controversy\u201d wrote, \u201cAt any rate, cost what it may, to separate ourselves from those who separate themselves from the truth of God is not alone our liberty, but our duty.\u201d<sup>2<\/sup><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">2. It is designed for the saint<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Church of Jesus Christ is the body of believers gathered to do His business.\u00a0 Sinners are not only welcome to come but are also invited to come!\u00a0 When they come they will see what believers do in church and may find that to be uncomfortable.\u00a0 But that is what they should find.\u00a0 That is the beginning of the conviction process which is necessary for the gospel witness.\u00a0 Not every patient that walks into the emergency room of the hospital finds it to be comfortable, yet it surely is necessary.\u00a0 As Paul admonished the Corinthians, if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: and thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth (1 Cor. 14:24-25).<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">3. It is drawn by pneumatology<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Rather than drawing people by seeker methodology, the church has and should seek the power of the Holy Spirit to draw the sinner to Christ.\u00a0 When Paul wrote back to the Thessalonian believers he confessed, For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake (1 Thes. 1:5).\u00a0 No amount of entertainment and emotional release can draw a sinner to repentance and faith.\u00a0 In fact, these things only cloud the issue and place roadblocks in the way that will take a life-time to overcome.\u00a0 The Holy Spirit desires to speak of sin, and of righteousness and of judgment (John 16:8).\u00a0 This is what made Felix tremble before the gospel and plead for a more convenient season (Acts 24:25).<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">4. It continually seeks conviction<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Many today have concluded that pressing a person about his lost condition is a negative to the gospel.\u00a0 Ed Dobson says, \u201cIn our context, walking down an aisle puts people on the spot; it applies pressure that is inappropriate when people are fragile and confronted with their relationship to God.\u201d<sup>3<\/sup> I\u2019m sure Agrippa would have liked Dobson more than Paul when he cried out, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian (Acts 26:27) and Festus said, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad (Acts 26:24).\u00a0 This is the vital difference in the two approaches!\u00a0 The seeker approach seeks to protect itself from the sinner\u2019s scorn, but the soul-winner is willing to commend himself to every man\u2019s conscience in the sight of God (2 Cor. 4:2).\u00a0 It is this placing ourselves at risk with the sinner\u2019s conscience that keeps us from the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">5. It aims toward repentance and faith<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Though I believe that the seeker movement desires to see people saved, their emphasis on pleasing the sinner detracts from the path to repentance.\u00a0 Historically, when the zeal of preaching public repentance to sinners waned, easier methods of counting converts arose such as confirmation classes.\u00a0 People were educated into Christ and blended into the church.\u00a0 I believe that will gradually happen in the seeker churches as people are brought in slowly and \u201cbrought up to speed\u201d on how a \u201cChristian\u201d should act in the church.\u00a0 Vance Havner noticed this trend fifty years ago when he wrote, \u201cWe have made it easy for hundreds superficially to &#8216;accept Christ&#8217; without ever having faced sin and with no sense of need.\u00a0 We are healing slightly the hurt of this generation, trying to treat patients who do not even know they are sick.\u201d<sup>4<\/sup> Conservatives, whether fundamentalists or evangelicals, have become known for their forthrightness with the gospel.\u00a0 Public invitations and soul winning have become trademarks for evangelistic churches. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences (2 Cor. 5:11).<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">6. It ends in changed lives<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The bottom line of effective evangelism is a new creation in Christ!\u00a0 The New Testament does not entertain the idea of a believer whose life does not change.\u00a0 In such cases (as with Simon in Acts 8) the professing believer is either disciplined or not accepted as a true believer.\u00a0 This is not to discount the normal growth pattern of new believers as old things are passed away; behold, all things are become (perfect tense: \u201care becoming\u201d)\u00a0 new (2 Cor. 5:17); it is to expect that the new birth makes new creatures.\u00a0 The sad but obvious truth is that the seeker movement has proved the adage, \u201cwhat you win them with is what you win them to.\u201d\u00a0 Many can claim that lives are changed, but only because the whole biblical standard for a changed life has been redefined before the person ever \u201csigned on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A common accusation about older saints is that they won\u2019t change.\u00a0 The irony of that is that our older saints did change!\u00a0 Years ago when they came to Christ, they left their old lives and became new creatures in Christ.\u00a0 And, they have remained changed!\u00a0 They are right to object to this accusation when those making it are refusing to make the same change and have no intention of changing from what they were to what they should become.\u00a0 It is not the older people who won\u2019t change, it is the new generation who is refusing to come to our churches and our faith unless we agree that they won\u2019t have to leave their old life style.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">And So . . . .<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Our conservative, traditional or \u201cnormal\u201d churches have no need to hang their heads nor to feel inferior to the seeker sensitive churches.\u00a0 It is not that our services are perfect by any means.\u00a0 But until a better idea than the seeker model comes along, I think we\u2019ll stay where we are and where we have been for centuries.\u00a0 The Scripture is our only measure of success.\u00a0 We will keep conforming to that, but not to the latest thing men have proposed.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<address style=\"text-align: justify;\">Notes:<\/address>\n<address style=\"text-align: justify;\">1. J. Gresham Machen, Christianity and Liberalism (Grand Rapids:\u00a0 Eerdmans, 1923) 68.<\/address>\n<address style=\"text-align: justify;\">2. C.H. Spurgeon, The Downgrade Controversy (Pasadena:\u00a0 Pilgrim Publications, nd) 72.<\/address>\n<address style=\"text-align: justify;\">3. Ed Dobson, Starting A Seeker Sensitive Service (Grand Rapids:\u00a0 Zondervan, 1993) 110.<\/address>\n<address style=\"text-align: justify;\">4. Vance Havner, Hearts Afire (Old Tappan: Fleming H. 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