{"id":1197,"date":"2011-05-07T17:31:02","date_gmt":"2011-05-07T17:31:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aletheiabaptistministries.org\/Blog\/may-qdoes-love-winq\/"},"modified":"2014-01-21T06:56:23","modified_gmt":"2014-01-21T06:56:23","slug":"may-qdoes-love-winq","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/aletheiabaptistministries.org\/Blog\/may-qdoes-love-winq\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Love Win?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt; text-align: justify;\">Recently, there has been an explosion of attention focused on Rob Bell and his new book, <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt; text-align: justify;\">, which was released in March 2011 by HarperOne. The buzz surrounding this book began when Bell posted an introductory video to his book which contained strong statements concerning heaven, hell, and the love of God. The blogosphere has exploded; responses have been written and given via video; conferences have had panel discussions to discuss Bell\u2019s book and the related issues; and Bell has appeared on various television talk shows discussing his book and the huge attention it is receiving.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\"> With the publication of <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> Bell has been accused of many things including being a universalist, preaching a false gospel, and ultimately serving a false god. Bell pastors in Grand Rapids, Michigan a church which averages 10,000 attendees per week. It is reported that up to 50,000 receive Bell\u2019s sermon podcast each week. <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> has become a <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">New York Times<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> bestseller (this is not the first successful book Bell has written). Also, Bell has helped to produce a series of popular short films on issues of spirituality. Bell has considerable influence and attention directed toward him which warrant, at the least, that we take a closer look at what he is saying and make a few decisions concerning his claims.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Summary of <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Bell writes his book for those \u201cwho have become acutely aware that Jesus\u2019s [sic] story has been hijacked by a number of other stories, stories Jesus isn\u2019t interested in telling\u201d (vii). Bell says he is writing\u00a0 \u201cfor all those, everywhere, who have heard some version of the Jesus story that cause their pulse rate to rise, their stomach to churn, and their heart to utter those resolute words, \u2018I would never be a part of that\u2019\u201d (viii). So, what is it that has been\u00a0 hijacked? Bell answers: <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 9pt; margin-right: 11.25pt; text-indent: -9pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">A staggering number of people have been taught that a select few Christians will spend forever in a peaceful, joyous place called heaven, while the rest of humanity spends forever in torment and punishment in hell with no chance for anything better. It\u2019s been clearly communicated that this belief is a central truth of the Christian faith and to reject it is, in essence, to reject Jesus. This is misguided and toxic and ultimately subverts the contagious spread of Jesus\u2019s message of love, peace, forgiveness, and joy that our world desperately needs to hear (viii).<span lang=\"en-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Bell wants to give responses to the questions that are asked about salvation. Many of these questions are real and difficult, but important. Bell wants to know what is heaven; what is hell; the kind of God who is behind that; how salvation ought to be understood; how exclusive is Jesus; and what is the gospel. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\">What is heaven? Bell sees the word \u201cheaven\u201d as a substitute for the name of God. Bell also sees heaven as the future reality of the age to come. Bell\u2019s third conception of heaven is his focus. It is the idea of heaven as a present reality. It is \u201cour present <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">eternal, intense, real<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> experiences of joy, peace, and love in this life, this side of death <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">and<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> the age to come\u201d (58-9). Bell has defined eternal life in a very specific way: \u201cEternal life is less about a kind of time that starts when we die, and more about a quality and vitality of life lived now in connection to God\u201d (59). So, heaven and eternal life are referring to the possibility of a certain kind of experience now and in the age to <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">come.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> When Bell talks about hell he refers to the times when love, grace, and humanity are rejected, whether in this life or the next. For Bell, hell is not a place of torment, it is not final, and it is not eternal. Bell summarizes what he means by hell: <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 9pt; margin-right: 11.25pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">We need a loaded, volatile, adequately violent, dramatic, serious word to describe the very real consequences we experience when we reject the good and true and beautiful life that God has for us. We need a word that refers to the big, wide, terrible evil that comes from the secrets hidden deep within our hearts all the way to the massive, society-wide collapse and chaos that comes when we fail to live in God\u2019s world God\u2019s way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 9pt; margin-right: 11.25pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">And for that,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 9pt; margin-right: 11.25pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">the word \u201chell\u201d works quite well. Let\u2019s keep it (93).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Bell asks the question: \u201cDoes God get what God wants?\u201d (95). Bell presents a view of God which says that because God is loving, all will be reconciled to him. Without that reality, God would be less than great. Bell says that God gets what God wants and we get what we want. If we want hell or heaven, it is ours because we are completely free. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Salvation, for Bell, has to be cosmic in scope and is essentially the new creation. Bell argues that the metaphors of salvation (reconciliation, redemption, etc.) are merely ways that first century believers described the cross and the resurrection. They tried to describe the \u201cepic event\u201d (129) of Jesus making all things into the new creation. Jesus has started the ball rolling toward the reconciliation of all things which is a restoration of the original plan of creation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> So, if God is undoubtedly reconciling all to him and Jesus has started this at the cross, is Jesus the only Savior? Bell claims that he holds to an \u201cexclusivity on the other side of inclusivity\u201d (154). Bell explains John 14:6: <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 9pt; margin-right: 12pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">What [Jesus] doesn\u2019t say is how, or when, or in what manner the mechanism functions that gets people to God through him. He doesn\u2019t even state that those coming to the Father through him will even know that they are coming exclusively through him. He simply claims that whatever God is doing in the world to know and redeem and love and restore the world is happening through him (154).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> So, Jesus is the way, but you may not understand that it is Jesus you are coming though. You may come through the mechanism of Buddhism or Hinduism or anything that actually teaches any part of the truth. There is a \u201cmystery present in all the world\u201d (157), Christianity merely names it correctly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> What then is the gospel? Bell argues that it is not about entrance into heaven but about joyous participation in it. Bell does not want to frame the gospel in terms of entrance because this a \u201cdestructive, violent understanding of God\u201d (183). Bell argues that when we make God to be one who determines (based on a decision) who enters where, then God becomes\u00a0 a terrible slave driver who demands sin to be punished by his wrath (183). Bell says: \u201cWe shape our God, and then our God shapes us\u201d (182-4). The gospel is not about how to gain entrance because that contains connotations that God would become all that Bell has just called bad. As Bell says: \u201cThe good news is better than that.\u201d Grace and love, for Bell, simply are (187-91). The gospel is that all are forgiven. What we believe or do does not get forgiveness, \u201cit just is.\u201d Salvation is becoming aware of the forgiveness that is already yours.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Bell ends his book with this invitation:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Whatever you\u2019ve been told about the end\u2013<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">the end of your life,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">the end of time,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">the end of the world-<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Jesus passionately urges us to live like the end is here, now, today.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Love is what God is,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">love is why Jesus came,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">and love is why he continues to come,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">year after year to person after person.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Love is why I\u2019ve written this book, and<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">love is what I want to leave you with.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">May you experience this vast,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">expansive, infinite, indestructible love<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">that has been yours all along.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">May you discover that this love is as wide<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">as the sky and as small as the cracks in<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">your heart no one else knows about.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">And may you know,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">deep in your bones,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">that love wins. (197-8)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 4.5pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; text-align: justify; padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"margin-left: 9pt; text-indent: -9pt; text-align: justify;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;\">A Short Response:<\/span><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\">It is difficult to critique Bell\u2019s writings because there is so much with which<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">to disagree. Kevin DeYoung has written a very helpful review of <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">(\u201cGod is Still Holy and What You Learned in Sunday School is Still True,\u201d available at:\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\"><a href=\"http:\/\/thegospelcoalition.org\/blogs\/kevindeyoung\/2011\/03\/14\/rob-bell-love-wins-review\/\">http:\/\/thegospelcoalition.org\/blogs\/kevindeyoung\/2011\/03\/14\/rob-bell-love-wins-review\/<\/a>).\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">. The theology is heterodox. The history is inaccurate. The impact on souls is devastating. And the use of Scripture is indefensible. Worst of all, <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> demeans the cross and misrepresents God\u2019s character\u201d (Ibid., 2). DeYoung goes on to spend 20 pages meticulously showing the faults of Bell\u2019s book, and even he admits that he is selective in his critique. To pick and choose what to talk about is very difficult. However, a few general issues are worth considering.<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> The Importance of Context.<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> It is possible to pick up <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> and read something out of it that sounds very good. Bell is quite adamant that he is orthodox. If you read <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> you ought to read the entire book and understand what he is saying in light of the context of the book and how he has defined words and concepts (that advice transfers to his videos). For instance, Bell denies being a universalist. He would argue that there is a real hell that people go through if they reject Jesus. But, what he means is that rejecting Jesus is simply not realizing that you are already forgiven and not living like it. So, hell can be now or in the next life. It is not a place of torment. Also, hell is not final and does not last forever (88-93). He believes you do not have to believe in Christ in this life in order to get past hell (110). In the end, God will reconcile all things. Somehow everyone will accept their forgiveness and God\u2019s love and will move past their self-inflicted hell. In other words: Love Wins! Bell denies that hell is everlasting for anyone. He affirms that everyone will eventually become saved (which is simply to realize you are already forgiven). While Bell contends that he is not a universalist (because he has redefined it), how can he not be considered one?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> Unfounded Claims. <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">If you read <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> you need to take Bell\u2019s own advice: wrestle with it to see if it is correct. A major frustration I have is that the majority of the book makes claims which are not founded, and yet many will simply accept as true! As DeYoung highlights in his review, Bell makes unfounded assumptions on issues of evangelicalism, history, exegesis, eschatology, Christology, the Gospel, and God. Bell misrepresents positions such as the nature of traditional evangelicalism and the major positions of historic Christianity concerning the redemption of all things. <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">Bell argues: <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">\u201cAt the center of the Christian tradition since the first church have been a number who insist that history is not tragic, hell is not forever, and love, in the end, wins and all will be reconciled to God\u201d (109). Bell may be able to find a few who take these positions, but the reality is that Bell\u2019s version of universalism is nowhere near the center of historic orthodoxy! Bell also provides questions which misrepresent a certain position and make it sound absurd. For instance, Bell asks: \u201cDoes God punish people for thousands of years with infinite, eternal torment for things they did in their few finite years of life?\u201d (2). Bell questions on what basis God would choose these people and then questions what kind of God that is. Bell continues his questions page after page. Through similar questioning tactics, Bell misrepresents many <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">viewpoints.<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> Essential Beliefs.<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> When Bell presents his views of the gospel, of Jesus, of God, and of the nature of Christianity (which are far removed from orthodoxy), he proves to be heterodox. What you believe and teach is essential because it does impact people for good or for ill. Bell\u2019s gospel teaches an errant path to God which has massive consequences for the souls of those who accept it.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><span lang=\"en-US\"> Many have been enraged that Bell is labeled as a universalist and that his teachings are called heretical and heterodox. They argue that Bell is trying to be a good Christian and love people. This response to <\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Love Wins<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\"> is not an attack on Bell as a person, it is an exercise of calling false what is not the truth. True love will tell a person the truth. The truth is that sin is real. Hell is a real place of torment. Jesus makes exclusive claims (Acts 4:12). The wrath of God does abide on those who do not believe (John 3:16, 36). There are areas of belief where charity is important, but there are also areas where lines must be drawn. When faith, God, and the gospel are redefined and re-explained the line has already been drawn. It is truth that is at stake<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\" style=\"color: maroon;\">!<\/span><span lang=\"en-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, there has been an explosion of attention focused on Rob Bell and his new book, Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived, which was released in March 2011 by HarperOne. 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